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Query:

Re: Will the greenhouse effect be noticble in the next 20 years?

Date: Mon Oct 12 13:25:35 1998
Posted By: Dan Berger, Faculty Chemistry/Science, Bluffton College
Area of science: Earth Sciences
ID: 905890418.Es
Message:

What effects will the greenhouse effect have on the earth in the next 20 years. I have heard that it will turn wooded areas into grasslands. Is it probable that the oceans will rise, will a great quantity of the ice in arctic regions melt causeing the oceans to rise? How will this effect the ocean's species and what about Flordia? Will it be flooded?


The answer to this question really depends on to whom you talk. There is no doubt whatever that carbon dioxide levels are higher than they were two centuries ago, but beyond that things become much more iffy. One of the points, though, is that things are very often rather "iffy" in science. Another point is that, while effects are quite unlikely to be sudden, the severity of unlikely effects needs to be taken into account when doing a risk-benefit analysis.

The majority of atmospheric scientists seem to think that the effects will eventually be profound, turning (for example) wooded areas into grasslands. The reason for this is a redistribution of rainfall; a corollary is that some grasslands or deserts may become much wetter, converting them into woodlands.

I don't think there's a good consensus on how long it would take to melt the polar icecaps -- though 20 years is well outside the range of possible values; 100-200 years is more like it. The melting of the majority of the Arctic icecap would not affect sea levels, since most of it floats on water. On the other hand, total melting of the Antarctic and Greenland ice caps would affect sea levels, since most of these ice caps sit on land.

Here's an experiment: take an ice cube and put it in a measuring cup. Let it melt. What is the volume of the water in the cup? This is analogous to melting the Antarctic or Greenland ice cap.

Now take an ice cube and put it in another measuring cup. Fill the cup with water to exactly half-full and let the ice melt. What is the volume of the water in the cup? This is analogous to melting the Arctic Ocean ice cap.

I am not certain how far above sea level the Florida peninsula is, but certainly it and other low-lying areas (like coastal Texas or the Mississippi delta, or for that matter New York City) would be subject to flooding if sea levels rose several feet.

Water levels would not effect oceanic life very much in themselves, and even the addition of such large quantities of fresh water would not have much effect. However, the global temperature rise associated with melting ice caps probably would have some effect, just as it would on land life.

The general consensus is that rising carbon dioxide levels are resulting in slightly higher average global temperatures, which are currently seen mostly in somewhat greater energy available in the atmosphere to form storms and other weather systems. Much of the doomsday extrapolation is not based on current CO2 levels, but is rather of the "if this trend continues" variety. Thomas Robert Malthus used that sort of reasoning to predict, around 1800, that the human race would be mostly dead of starvation by about 1850...

Web sites which give more information on global warming:

  Dan Berger
  Bluffton College
  http://cs.bluffton.edu/~berger
Web sites on T.R. ("Bob") Malthus:


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