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Query:

Re: I am currently interested in scalar energy. What is so dangerous about them?

Date: Tue Jul 13 12:58:09 2004
Posted By: Scott Kniffin, Nuclear Engineer, Orbital Sciences Corporation
Area of science: Physics
ID: 1088644495.Ph
Message:

The only danger in scalar energy would come from the amount of money you
wasted in trying to replicate it.  This is another in a long line of "free
energy" devices, a delightfully ridiculous version of the perpetual motion
machine.  

I had a rather amusing time going over the website you cited.  It is so
much fun to see the ranting of individuals that are one taco short of a
combination platter.  I am happy to provide a few simple pointers to show
where this individual has left the track of rational thought.  

First and foremost: the United States Patent Office tries it’s very best
not to allow patents on perpetual motion machines.  However, once in a
while, one slips by the completely overwhelmed staff at the USPO.  I am not
surprised that he neglected to include his patent number for verification.
 Just because it has a patent does not make it valid.  I am also amused by
the “references” he cited without providing any actual references that
could be checked and verified.  

He seems to spend a great deal of time talking about how this information
is suppressed and how he can’t make it public.  So, it took me about 3
minutes to come up with a simple way to get this “discovery” of
“suppressed” information public.  He claims that his device returns more
than 100 times the energy that is put in.  If this is the case, he should
build two or three of his little toys.  Take some simple AC to DC
converters (which can be purchased cheaply at your local electronics store)
and a simple DC to AC converter to feed back into his house outlet.  With
the 100 times return, this will easily overcome the efficiency loss in both
the converters.  Now with the DC to AC converter feeding electricity back
into the house, it’s time to set up the media frenzy.  Based on the way
American power distribution is set up, if you generate electricity on your
property, you can feed it back into the grid through your own meter and if
you generate a surplus, the power company must buy the electricity back
from you at the going rate.  If this really worked, he now just has to call
a TV station and tell them that he has come up with a way to make the
electric company pay him!  A crew would be sent out, see the electric meter
on the outside of his house going BACKWARDS, look at his electricity bill
and then ask “How?”.  The story would spread across the news wire and would
no longer be "suppressed".  Everyone would love this because it would be a
way to undermine and eliminate one of the most dreaded things in home
ownership: the electric bill.  This will never happen as of course, as it
is impossible.  

I did ask one of our physicists here what might happen if the universe were
set up to be able to “pull free energy from the vacuum” as is claimed here.
 He was quite familiar with this hoax.  The response involved several
minutes of physics that were way beyond my understanding.  The upshot was
that if it were possible, the point at which the energy was “removed” would
cause a fault in space-time that would likely release so much energy as to
make the inside of a fusion bomb going off look like a match.  Fortunately,
our universe does not appear to be set up like this.  For that I’m thankful.  

So remember to stay sharp when you hear “scientific” discoveries that seem
too good to be true, because they very nearly always are.  It takes a
smart, well-trained brain to recognize and methodically pick apart the
underlying untruth.  You thought about what you saw and had the presence of
mind to ask a question; good start, keep up the good work. 

Scott Kniffin
NASA GSFC
Flight Electronics Branch
Radiation Effects and Analysis Group



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