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Re: What is the difference between Daltonides and Berthollides?

Date: Mon Jan 11 07:54:12 1999
Posted By: Dan Berger, Faculty Chemistry/Science, Bluffton College
Area of science: Chemistry
ID: 916026098.Ch
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What is the difference between Daltonides and Bertholides?

For my chemistry class we have the option of doing "One More Step" and one of them is to find the difference between the compounds Daltonides and those known as Bertholides.


My copy of the Oxford Concise Dictionary of Chemistry has no entry for "Daltonides," but cross-references "Berthollide compound" to "non-stoichiometric compounds."

Daltonides are compounds which (per John Dalton's 1808 book A New System of Chemical Philosophy) are compose of elements in exact integer ratios. Water, which we know as H2O but Dalton thought had the formula HO, is a Daltonide compound. And my own field, organic chemistry, is exclusively concerned with Daltonides (all molecular compounds, up to and including giants like hemoglobin and DNA, are Daltonides).

However, many minerals and ceramics are Berthollides, compounds in which the elements do not necessarily combine in exact integer ratios. Rutile, a white pigment commonly given the formula TiO2, often has formulas such as TiO1.8 in practice. And at least one of the yttrium barium copper oxide superconducting ceramics is a Bertollide, with a formula ranging from YBa2Cu3O6 to YBa2Cu3O7.

  Dan Berger
  Bluffton College
  http://cs.bluffton.edu/~berger


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