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Hi Carlos, I must start with a couple of apologies. Firstly I must apologize that it appeared that i have not answered your question sooner. In fact I have been on a 1g interstellar journey; I answered your question in 1 day but you received it after 14 days. Hopefully after reading my answer you will be able to calculate how fast I was traveling! Secondly I must apologize for having not read Kip Thorne's book and so i don't know the exact situation he was describing. What I shall do then is to explain to you how to calculate the times and speeds for yourself for a situation that, to me at least, seems quite general. I shall explain to you the method behind the calculations and then give you the equations. If you don't understand the explanation too well don't worry. You can either contact me again or just apply the equations without worrying about the theory. In the first quarter of this century Albert Einstein revolutionized our notions of the space and time; in fact he changed there fundamental meanings. He did this with the development of two theories; Special Relativity (SR) and General Relativity (GR). SR describes how the laws of physics behave in what are called "inertial frames of reference". A fancy name for the XYZ and T coordinate systems of the collection of all observers that are NOT accelerating relative to each other. For example two rockets, piloted by Ben and Catherine, in space float past each other at constant velocity (i.e. without there engines on) are inertial observers and if they both carry a ruler and a clock to define a coordinate system then they can be said to exist in inertial frames of reference. The relative velocity between Ben and Catherine's rockets can take on any value it likes so long as that velocity is less than the speed of light and it never changes. If a third rocket were to come along, piloted by Diane say, that had its motor burning brightly then the relative velocity between Diane and her friends would be changing constantly; i.e. she will be accelerating and as such she is NOT in an inertial frame. SR deals ONLY with inertial frames. If Ben and Catherine perform measurements of whatever, each other size etc., SR can tell us how there results will compare. SR can not directly tell us what Diane will observe. Despite Diane's impatience we can still use SR to describe what Diane will observe in her accelerating frame. We can do this by considering what will be observed not by Diane herself but by an inertial observer traveling at the same velocity as Diane at a certain time. For example say at 1:30 pm (according to Ben's clock) Diane has accelerated to a velocity of 0.5 times the speed of light (which we write as 0.5 x c or simply 0.5c where c is the speed of light). SR can not tell us directly what Diane will observe. If the relative velocity between Ben and Catherine is also 0.5c then SR can tell us what Catherine will observe. Since Catherine's velocity relative to Ben is constant (remember they are inertial observers) then both Catherine and Diane will be traveling at 0.5c relative to Ben at 1:30 pm; i.e. for an instant Catherine and Diane will be identical. SR tells us what Catherine will observe in this instant and so we can infer what Diane will observe in this instant. Of course an instant later feisty Diane would have accelerated a little more and Catherine and Diane will no longer agree. But all we have to do is bring in another friend traveling slightly faster, Catherine's sister perhaps,(but still with constant velocity relative to both Ben and Catherine) who matches Diane's speed at say 1:31 pm. This approach is valid based on an assumption. That assumption is that acceleration itself has no effect on Diane's clock only her instantaneous velocity. This assumption has been tested successfully experimentally and so I shall use it with out further justification. If we do this repeatedly we can know what Diane will observe at each instant by considering an inertial observer who has the same velocity as Diane at that instant. The only snag is that we need a different inertial observer for each instant and in order to accurately describe what Diane will see we need a lot of them! The approach I have used is explained in "Discovering Relativity for yourself"- Sam Lilley, Cambridge University Press, p213-266. Read this, it gives an excellent account of the method. The method basically uses the approach of Ben, Catherine and Diane except that Catherine has many many sisters. Because we are always comparing Diane's clock to an equivalent inertial observer we need to repeat a calculation over and over again; once for each equivalent frame that we are comparing Diane's clock to or equivalently once for each instant in Diane's path. The number of times we have to repeat the calculation or rather the difference between each equivalent frame is defined by how accurately we want the answer to be. The most accurate we can get is if we use an infinite number of Catherines sisters(inertial observers) which differ from each other in only an infinitesimal way. i.e. use the calculus (you wont find this step in the reference). Even if you understood little of what's above here are the equations that can give you your answers. Consider Ben and Diane and forget about Catherine and all her sisters (They were used to calculate Dianes observations and so are sort of behind the scenes -----\ -----\ | B \ ------ | D \ -----> acceleration = a | / ------ | / -----/ -----/ D starts with zero velocity relative to B and accelerates away with acceleration a. After a while she reverse here motor to decelerate back to zero velocity relative to B at a distance (according to B) of D_B. D then continues to accelerate towards B and then reverses her motor again to decelerate back to a velocity of zero relative to Ben back at the starting position. So to summarize, Diane and Ben start off at the same point. Diane accelerates away to a distance of D_B and then accelerates back coming to a halt back at Ben's unchanged position (according to Ben). Time taken according to Ben (in years), T_B (1) T_B = (2/a)(k - 1/k) Time taken according to Diane (in years),, T_D (2) T_D = (4/a)ln(k) Maximum distance reached according to Ben (in light years),D_B (3) D_B = (1/a)[(k + 1/k) -2] In these equations a is the acceleration in g's i.e for a 1g acceleration a = 1, for a 20g a = 20. in equation (2) "ln(k)" means take the natural logarithm of the number k. Some people call this the log to base e. It should be on your calculator. K in these equations relates to the maximum velocity obtained by the following equations. k has an important significance in SR, it is known as the Doppler Factor. You can just consider it a way of reducing the number of terms in equations (1), (2), (3). (4) 1 + (v/c) k = ------------- sqrt(1 - (v/c)^2) (5) k^2 - 1 v = ------ k^2 + 1 Where v is the maximum velocity reached and c is the speed of light. You can calculate k by inserting the maximum velocity or by rearranging equations (1), (2), or (3) depending on what you know about your journey. e.g. 1) For instance if you know that T_D is 10 years then you can work out k by rearranging (2); k = exp(aT_D/4) where exp(aT_D/4) means raise e to the power of (aT_D/4); i.e its the inverse of ln (should be written as e^x on your calculator and is usually accessed by SHIFT + ln) If T_D is 10 years and a = 1 then k = 12.18. Consequently equation (1) gives the time according to Ben as; T_D = (2/1)(12.18 - 1/12.18) = 24.2 years So for a 1g trip that lasts 10 years according to Diane would have lasted 24 years according to Ben. e.g. 2) If we know the the maximum velocity is 0.75c and a = 20 (your example) then we can calculate k from (4) 1 + (0.75) k = ------------- = 2.65 sqrt(1 - (0.75)^2) and so we can calculate; T_B = (2/20)( 2.65- 1/2.65) = 0.23 years Time taken according to Diane (in years),, T_D T_D = (4/20)ln(2.65) = 0.19 years Maximum distance reached according to Ben (in light years),D_B D_B = (1/20)[(2.65 + 1/2.65) -2] = 0.05 light-years Have fun! Matt
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