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Re: Possible to use VandeGraaff generator to attract water? (large scale)

Date: Tue Feb 22 12:01:52 2005
Posted By: Norm from Georgia, Staff, Materials Engineer, U S Air Force Materiel Command
Area of science: Physics
ID: 1106964146.Ph
Message:

Wow!  "With ambitions" is right...

Sorry to rain on your parade, or patio, but I don't think it will work.

As you seem to be aware, water IS a polar compound, meaning that in an 
electrostatic field you discribe, its molecules would tend to reorient 
themselves under the field's effects.  However, each molecule would still 
remain, overall, nuetral, and being fairly good conductors, would tend 
not to pick up a static charge strong enough to allow it to change 
direction.

Ah, but does it really have to be water?

For your setup sounds ever-so-much like the classic "Millikan OIL Drop 
Experiment" (on steroids).

In case you haven't heard of it, it is a nearly hundred years old 
experiment whereby oil is sprayed between two charged plates.  Because 
the sprayed oil drops (usually) picks up a charge from the atomizer, each 
one will fall, rise, or remain nearly stationary, depending on the charge 
of the plates and the number of electrons picked up by the drops.

By measuring the charges on the plate, and determining the incremental 
velocities of the drops, one could, and did, determine the exact value of 
the charge of a single electron.  One could find many sites on the 
Internet citing the details of the experiment.

After figuring a way to getting a stream of a low-viscosity oil to ionize 
(hopefully NOT involving gamma or x-radiation), one should be able to 
pull it away from the observer using the generator...maybe.  And, since 
the stream should not be in contact with the patron, s/he may never know 
that it was not water.

I have at least one caveat about this whole deal:  I hope that you have 
figured out how to ground/shield the patrons.  Giving them all "bad hair 
days" while watching this phenomena may not be a big drawing card.

Good luck!






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