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Query:

Re: When an organism dies, are there more C12 or C13 deposits left over?

Date: Fri Feb 21 23:22:27 2014
Posted By: Steve Mack, Staff Scientist
Area of science: Biochemistry
ID: 1392854910.Bc
Message:

Hello! I know that certain enzymes in living organisms "prefer" C12 because of its lighter mass. Using this logic, I decided that when an organism dies, more C13 is left over since the body reacts with C12 faster.

However, my tutor said otherwise (with uncertainty) and my teacher just re-explained that c12 reacts quicker w/o answering my question. So, when an organism dies, is more c12 or c13 left over? Thanks!

Hi Rachel,

It sounds like you are asking if an organism is "enriched" for carbon 13 (13C) relative to carbon 12 (12C), so that there are more 13C atoms than 12C atoms in the body after the organism dies. However, I may be interpreting your question incorrectly (more on that below), so bear with me.

First, take a look at this answer (1055532737.Bc) about the enrichment (isotopic fractionation) of 12C over 13C in biological systems.

From that answer, you can see that while it is true that "certain enzymes" have a preference for 12C over 13C, the group of enzymes involved is rather small. For the most part, the isotopic fractionation occurs when carbon is fixed by photosynthetic and chemosynthetic organisms; the δ 13C value for a given carbon fixing organism is the same as it is for organisms that eat those carbon fixers. So, that means that most biological processes in most organisms (especially heterotrophs) are "agnostic" with respect to 12C vs 13C.

In addition, your question seems to assume that biological processes will act preferentially toward every individual 12C atom relative to every 13C atom. However, as you can also see in my earlier answer, enzymatic isotopic fractionation only occurs with specific atoms in specific substrate molecules (like pyruvate's keto carbon). So most of an organism's carbon atoms are unaffected.

With that having been said, it is not clear to me what you mean when you describe 12C or 13C "deposits" as being "left over." Left over from what? When an organism dies, the remains have the same composition that they had when it was alive (at least for a little while). So an organism that consumed C4 plants all its life would have a δ 13C value of -13 both while it was alive and when it was dead.

In absolute terms, all biological systems are composed of a greater number of 12C atoms than 13C atoms, because the environmental ratio of 12C to 13C is very large to start (9893:107). In organisms, that ratio is even greater relative to the environment. It doesn't make a difference if an organism is alive or dead, there's always more 12C than 13C.

I hope this helps address your question!

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