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Re: Will removing perches from a tube birdfeeder limit visitors to goldfinches?

Date: Thu Nov 16 18:47:50 2000
Posted By: June M. Wingert , RM(NRM),Associate Scientist
Area of science: Zoology
ID: 973096200.Zo
Message:

Hi carly,
This was a great question.  I hope you enjoy the information I have 
gathered from the Internet.

The internet sites listed below will answer all your questions and then 
some,  about bird feeders, perches, and types of feed.

This is an excellent page on how to attract goldfinches. http://www.ehow.c
om/eHow/eHow/0,1053,1806,00.html?
st=looksmart&cr=searchtext&lp=ie

The following site is about Backyard Bird Feeding.  It was taken from the 
US Fish & Wildlife Service pamphlet, and is titled “Homes for Birds”
It is informative and quite exhaustive in its’ coverage.  You will enjoy 
going to this site.

INTRODUCTION
Backyard bird feeding is a convenient way to enjoy wildlife. According to 
a recent Census Report, over 65 million Americans, young and old, have 
given it a try. 
What has made watching birds the fastest growing hobby in the country, 
second only to gardening? What ever it is, watching birds, like watching 
fish or other animals, seems to make people feel good. 
How do our "hand-outs" affect the birds? Little research has been done on 
that question. But we do know that some birds -- cardinals, mockingbirds 
and tufted titmice -- have extended their winter range northward, perhaps 
because of an increased availability of food at feeding stations. There is 
no indication however that backyard bird feeding has had a negative effect 
on wild bird populations as a whole. 
Backyard bird feeding can, however, have an adverse effect on an 
individual bird. There may be a higher incidence of disease and birds 
injured by flying into windows. You can take precautions to minimize these 
problems. 
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GETTING STARTED
No matter where you live, you can put food outside your door, and some 
creature, feathered or furred, will show its appreciation and make an 
appearance. That's all it takes. Once you get started, it's hard to stop. 
Before you know it, you're learning bird names. After awhile, you'll start 
to recognize individuals and the messages in their behavior and song. 
When you get to the point where you want to attract and "keep" a 
particular species, what you do will be determined by where you live, and 
the time of year. For example, on any winter day, you're likely to see a 
cardinal at a sunflower feeder in Virginia, a goldfinch at a thistle 
feeder in Massachusetts and hummingbirds at a nectar feeder in southern 
California. 
How can you find out which birds to expect? A bird field identification 
book has pictures of different birds and will help you find the names for 
the birds you're likely to see. 
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FEEDER SELECTION
When the ground is covered with snow and ice, it's hard to resist just 
tossing seed out the door. But it's healthier for the birds to get 
their "hand-outs" at a feeding station, off the ground. 
Regardless of the season, food that sits on the ground for even a short 
time is exposed to potential contamination by dampness, mold, bacteria, 
animal droppings, lawn fertilizers and pesticides. 
It's best, for the birds' sake, to use a feeder. 
You can start simply with a piece of scrap wood, elevated a few inches 
above the ground. Add a few holes for drainage and you've built a platform 
feeder. It won't be long before the birds find it. 
Whether you buy one or build one, eventually you'll find yourself looking 
at commercially manufactured feeders. There are literally hundreds to 
choose from. How do you make the "right" choice? What makes a 
feeder "good?" 
First consider placement
Where do you want to watch your birds? From a kitchen window... a sliding 
glass door opening on to a deck... a second story window? 
Pick a location that has year-round easy access. When the weather's bad 
and birds are most vulnerable, you may be reluctant to fill a feeder that 
isn't in a convenient spot near a door or accessible window. 
Also consider the "mess" factor. Pick a location where discarded seed 
shells and bird droppings won't be a clean-up problem. 
Put your feeder where the squirrels can't reach. Those cute little rodents 
seem to like sunflower and peanuts as much or more than acorns. Squirrels 
become a problem when they take over a bird feeder, scaring the birds 
away, and tossing seed all over. 
What's worse... frustrated squirrels have been known to entertain 
themselves by chewing right through plastic and wooden feeders. 
If you've seen squirrels in your neighborhood, it's safe to assume they 
will visit your feeder. Think long and hard before you hang anything from 
a tree limb. Squirrels are incredibly agile, and any feeder hanging from a 
tree, with or without a squirrel guard or baffle, is likely to become a 
squirrel feeder. 
In the long run, a squirrel-proof feeder or any feeder on a pole with a 
baffle is the least aggravating solution. The most effective squirrel-
proof feeder is the pole-mounted metal "house" type. 
If you must hang a feeder, select a tube protected with metal mesh. Most 
plastic "squirrel-proof" feeders, despite manufacturers' claims, may 
eventually succumb to rodent teeth. 
If you have the "right" situation in your yard, a pole with a baffle 
should suffice. Any wood or plastic feeder can be effective when mounted 
on a pole with a plastic or metal baffle, if the pole is at least 10 feet 
or more from a tree limb or trunk. 
Once you've determined you're going to put your feeder, you're ready to go 
shopping. In addition to good looks, think about...
·	... how durable is it? 
·	... will it keep the seeds dry? 
·	... how easy is it to clean? 
·	... how much seed will it hold? 
·	... how many birds will it feed at one time? 
·	... which species will use it? 
Durability
There seems to be no end to the material used in making bird feeders. You 
can buy "disposable" plastic bag feeders; feeders made of cloth, nylon, 
vinyl and metal netting; clear, lexan, colored and PVC plastic tubes; 
ceramic and terra cotta; redwood, western cedar, birch, pine and plywood; 
sheet metal and aluminized steel; glass tubes and bottles. 
How long a feeder lasts depends on how much effort you put into 
maintaining it, the effects of weather, and whether squirrels can get to 
it. 
Dry Seeds
Water can get into any feeder regardless of how careful you are to protect 
it. Seed will spoil when it gets damp or wet. Cloth, vinyl, nylon and 
metal netting feeders are inexpensive, but they do not protect your seed. 
You can improve them by adding a plastic dome. 
Most wood, plastic, ceramic and solid metal feeders will keep seed dry, 
but water can get into the feeding portals. Look for feeders with drainage 
holes in the bottoms of both the feeder hopper and the seed tray. 
Even bowl-type feeders and trays with drainage holes will clog with seed 
and bird droppings. Add rainwater and you have an unhealthy broth. Look 
for shallow plate-like seed trays. The purpose of a tray is to catch 
dropped seeds while allowing spent seed shells to blow away. 
Cleaning
Any zookeeper and cage bird owner will tell you, when you feed birds in a 
confined area, you have to expect bird droppings, feathers, an occasional 
insect or two and left-over food mess. 
While you don't have to wash the feeder daily, you should clean it 
regularly. 
Diseases like salmonella can grow in moldy, wet seed and bird droppings in 
your feeder tray and on the ground below. It's a good idea to move your 
feeders (just a foot or so) each season to give the ground underneath time 
to assimilate the seed debris and bird droppings. 
Keeping your feeders clean should not become a major undertaking. The 
degree of maintenance required is directly related to the types of birds 
you want to attract. 
A thistle feeder for goldfinches should be cleaned about once a month 
depending on how often it rains. Feeding hummingbirds requires cleaning at 
the very least, weekly, preferably more often -- two or three times a 
week. Sunflower and suet feeders may need to be cleaned only once a month. 
Feeders made of plastic, ceramic and glass are easy to clean. Wash them in 
a bucket of hot, soapy water fortified with a capful or two of chlorine 
bleach, then give them a run through your dishwasher. 
Use the same regimen with wood feeders, but substitute another 
disinfectant for the bleach so your wood won't fade. 
Food Capacity
The ideal feeder capacity varies with your situation, and the types of 
birds you want to attract. 
If you feed hummingbirds, big feeders are not always better. One 
hummingbird will drink about 2 times its body weight (less than an ounce) 
a day. Early in the season, hummers are territorial and won't share a 
feeder. A sixteen ounce feeder can be wasteful, or indeed lethal, because 
artificial nectar (sugar water) can ferment in the hot summer sun. 
If you see only one hummer in your yard, a two ounce feeder is more than 
enough. On the other hand, if you live in the southwest, and have 34 
hummers in your yard, a sixteen ounce feeder may not be big enough. 
If you opt for a large volume seed feeder, be sure to protect it from the 
weather and keep it clean. If after months of use, the birds suddenly 
abandon your feeder full of seed, it's time for a cleaning. 
How Many Birds
If too many birds at your feeder becomes a problem, you can control their 
numbers by putting out smaller amounts of seed, by using specialty seeds, 
or by using restrictive feeders. 
If you fill your feeder only when it's empty, the birds will look for food 
elsewhere. They'll return as long as you continue to fill it. 
You can virtually eliminate visits by birds you'd rather not see by 
offering seeds they won't eat. Be selective in your choice of seeds. 
If you use more than one type of seed, put them in separate feeders. This 
will reduce wasted seeds, as birds will toss unwanted seeds out of a 
feeder to get to their favorites. 
Birds that visit your feeder have very specific preferences, Most prefer 
sunflower. Some prefer millet. A few prefer peanuts. None seem to prefer 
the other grains used in the mixes: corn, milo, red millet, oats, wheat 
and canary seed. 
If you want to feed only cardinals, doves and white-throated sparrows, 
switch from black oil sunflower to safflower. If you want only finches and 
an occasional dove and white-throated sparrow, try niger thistle. If you 
want only jays, titmice and white-throated sparrows, try peanuts. 
Another way to discourage unwanted birds is to use specialty feeders that 
for the most part, allow only "select" birds to feed. 
The most non-selective feeders are the tray, platform or house feeders. 
You can encourage small birds with feeders that restrict access. Wood 
feeders with vertical bars and feeders covered with wire mesh frustrate 
the larger birds. 
Tube feeders without trays also restrict access to small birds. Remove the 
perches, and you've further selected only those birds capable of clinging -
- finches, chickadees, titmice and woodpeckers. 
Add vertical perches to tube thistle feeders, and you'll limit 
accessibility primarily to the goldfinches. 
If starlings are a problem at your suet feeder, you can discourage them by 
using a suet feeder with access only at the bottom. Starlings are 
reluctant to perch upside down. Chickadees and woodpeckers don't find that 
a problem. 
Species Variety
The species you attract is determined primarily by the seeds you offer. 
Black oil sunflower is the hands-down favorite of all the birds that visit 
tube and house type feeders. White proso millet is favored by birds who 
visit platform feeders (doves and sparrows). Ducks, geese and quail will 
eat corn. 
Many of the cereal grains (corn, milo, oats, canary, wheat, rape, flax and 
buckwheat) in mixed bird seeds are NOT favorites of birds that visit tube 
feeders. 
Watch a feeder filled with a seed mix and you'll see the birds 
methodically drop or kick out most of the seeds to get to their favorite --
 sunflower. Birds will also kick out artificial "berry" pellets, processed 
seed flavored and colored to look like "real" fruit. 
Seeds that wind up on the ground are likely to be contaminated by dampness 
and bird droppings. If the birds don't eat them, rodents will. 
The most effective way to attract the largest variety of birds to your 
yard is to put out separate feeders for each food:
·	starling-resistant suet feeder 
·	a house feeder for sunflower 
·	a bluebird feeder 
·	a wire mesh cage feeder for peanuts 
·	a nectar feeder 
·	a tube feeder for thistle 
·	a stationary or tray fruit feeder 
·	a house or platform feeder for millet 
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BIRDS ATTRACTED BY VARIOUS FEEDERS AND FOODS
TUBE FEEDER WITH BLACK OIL SUNFLOWER
   goldfinches                  chickadees
   woodpeckers                  nuthatches
   titmice                      redpolls, pine siskins

ADDING A TRAY TO THE TUBE FEEDER WILL ALSO ATTRACT
   cardinals                    jays
   crossbills                   purple finches
   white-throated sparrow       house finches
   white-crowned sparrows

TRAY OR PLATFORM FEEDER -- WITH MILLET
   doves                        house sparrows
   blackbirds                   juncos
   cowbirds                     towhees
   white-throated sparrows      tree sparrows
   white-crowned sparrows       chipping sparrows

TRAY OR PLATFORM FEEDER -- WITH CORN
   starlings                    house sparrows
   grackles                     jays
   juncos                       bobwhite quail
   doves                        ring-necked pheasants
   white-throated sparrows

PLATFORM FEEDER OR TUBE FEEDER AND TRAY -- with PEANUTS
   cardinals                    chickadees
   grackles                     house finches
   titmice                      house sparrows
   sparrows                     starlings
   mourning doves               white-throated sparrows
   jays                         juncos

NIGER THISTLE FEEDER WITH TRAY
   goldfinches                  house finches
   purple finches               redpolls
   pine siskins                 doves
   chickadees                   song sparrows
   dark-eyed juncos             white-throated sparrows

NECTAR FEEDER
   hummingbirds                 orioles
   cardinals                   tanagers
   woodpeckers                  finches
   thrushes

FRUIT
   orioles                      tanagers
   mockingbirds                 bluebirds
   thrashers                    cardinals
   woodpeckers                  jays
   starlings                    thrushes
   cedar waxwings               yellow-breasted chats

HANGING SUET FEEDER
   woodpeckers                  wrens
   chickadees                   nuthatches
   kinglets                     thrashers
   creepers                     cardinals
   starlings

PEANUT BUTTER SUET
   woodpeckers                  goldfinches
   juncos                       cardinals
   thrushes                     jays
   kinglets                     bluebirds
   wrens                        starlings

HANGING PEANUT FEEDER
   woodpeckers
   chickadees
   titmice
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UNINVITED GUESTS AT THE BIRDFEEDER
Once you get your bird feeding station up and running, you may run into 
problems with uninvited guests. These visitors fall into two categories -- 
those interested in the seeds (squirrels and chipmunks, rats and mice, 
starlings and house sparrows), and those interested in a bird for dinner 
(cats and hawks). 
If you have trees, you will get to know squirrels. You may marvel at their 
antics, until they take over your bird feeders. Then you'll either love 
them or hate them. 
Those who love squirrels tolerate their visits, and may even encourage 
them with special squirrel toys and feeders. 
When a squirrel is at the feeder, you're not likely to see birds. 
Squirrels will scare off the birds while they eat the seed, and sooner or 
later, they'll eat the feeder too. 
The simplest solution is the squirrel-proof feeder or pole, and storing 
your seed in a metal garbage can. 
Chipmunks, rats and mice can also become a problem where there's seed 
spillage under the feeder. Don't use mixed bird seed, and if you don't 
have a squirrel problem, add a feeder tray. 
Crow, house sparrow and starling problems can be eliminated by seed and 
feeder selection. 
Cats are another story altogether. Feral cats and your neighbor's tabby 
are a serious threat to nestlings, fledglings and roosting birds. Too 
often, the presence of just one cat on the prowl near your feeder can take 
the enjoyment out of your backyard bird watching experience. 
When a cat sits drooling under your feeder, you're not likely to see any 
birds. You're bound to feel much worse when you find a pile of feathers on 
the ground. 
If your neighbor is reasonable, suggest a bell collar. If that doesn't 
work, consider getting yourself a pet -- a dog. Birds don't seem to be 
bothered by most dogs, but cats and squirrels are. 
If there are no cats in your neighborhood and you find a pile of feathers 
near your feeder, look for a hungry hawk perching on a tree nearby. 
Don't get upset. Consider yourself fortunate to see one, right in your 
backyard. Cooper's and sharp-shinned hawks eat birds and play an important 
role in the natural community. 
Don't put out poisons, or try to trap them, since all birds of prey -- 
eagles, owls and hawks -- are protected by Federal law. 
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QUESTIONS ABOUT FEEDING WILD BIRDS
When's the best time to start?
There is no best or worst time. Start whenever you want to. The birds can 
use your help in the very early spring when their natural seed sources are 
scarce. In general, whenever the weather is severe, birds will appreciate 
a reliable supplemental food source. 
When's the best time to stop?
If you enjoy feeding birds, there is no reason to stop. You can do it year-
round. Feeding the birds throughout the summer will not make them "lazy," 
or "dependent." If you keep your feeding station clean, there's no reason 
for you to stop feeding suet, sunflower, millet, fruit and nectar. 
Is it best to stop feeding hummingbirds after Labor Day?
There is no evidence that feeding hummingbirds after Labor Day will keep 
them from migrating. In fact, it may help a weakened straggler refuel for 
the long haul. Leave your nectar feeders out until the birds stop coming. 
How long does it take for birds to find a feeder?
Sometimes it can seem like forever. It may take more time for birds to 
find window feeders than hanging or pole-mounted feeders. If you're 
impatient, start with a feeder full of hulled sunflower. If that doesn't 
get their attention, wrap aluminum foil around the top of the feeder 
hanger. Sometimes all it takes is the reflection of light on the foil to 
catch their attention. 
My feeder is full of seeds. I haven't seen a bird in months. Am I doing 
something wrong?
When birds desert your feeder, it may be simply that a lot of natural food 
is available nearby. Or something may be wrong, such as your seeds are 
spoiled or your feeder contaminated. Throw the seeds away and wash the 
feeder. Take a look at where your feeder is placed. Be sure it's not 
vulnerable to predators. 
Won't birds' feet stick to metal feeders and perches in the wet winter 
weather?
Birds don't have sweat glands in their feet, so they won't freeze onto 
metal feeders. There's no need to cover any metal feeders parts with 
plastic or wood to protect birds feet, tongues or eyes. 
Can birds choke on peanut butter?
There's no evidence that birds can choke on peanut butter. However, birds 
have no salivary glands. You can make it easier on them by mixing peanut 
butter with lard, cornmeal, and/or grit. Your birds will appreciate 
drinking water too -- a bird bath or trough. 
Do wild birds need grit?
In the winter, you may see flocks of birds along roadsides after the 
snowplows have passed. They're after the grit. Birds have no teeth to 
grind their food. The dirt, sand, pebbles, and grit they eat sits in their 
crop and helps grind up their food. Adding grit to your feeder is helpful 
year-round, but particularly in the winter and spring. Crushed eggshells 
do the same thing, and in the spring have an added benefit. They provide 
extra calcium during nesting season. 
Won't suet go "bad" in the summer?
In the winter, raw beef fat from the local butcher is all you need for 
your suet feeder. When temperatures rise, raw fat can melt, and get 
rancid. It's safer to use commercially rendered suet cakes in the spring 
and summer months. Rendering, boiling the fat, kills bacteria. And yes, 
it's okay to feed your woodpeckers year-round. They will visit your 
feeders all summer long, and they'll bring their babies. 
What is hummingbird "nectar"? Do hummers need nectar fortified with 
vitamins and minerals?
Hummingbird nectar is nothing more than table sugar and water. You can 
make your own by adding 1/4 cup of sugar to a cup of boiling water. 
Hummers eat insects for their protein. There is no evidence that these 
tiny birds need vitamin and mineral supplements. There is also no evidence 
that adding red food coloring to nectar will harm the birds, but it 
probably is not necessary to attract them. Just put your feeder near red 
flowers. Please remember, sugar water will ferment when left in the hot 
sun. Fermented nectar is deadly. Do not put out a feeder if you are not 
willing to clean it at least weekly, preferably twice a week. 
How can I avoid bees at my hummingbird feeder?
Bees are usually a problem only in hot weather. It's inevitable that bees 
will visit your hummingbird feeder. Little plastic bee guards may help 
keep them from getting nectar but it won't stop them from trying. Don't 
take the chance of contaminating your nectar by putting vegetable oil 
around the feeding portals. The safest solution is to add a few small 
feeders away from where people are likely to be bothered by bees. 
How close to your window can you put a feeder?
Birds will come right to your window. Sometimes it takes a while for them 
to overcome their initial reluctance, so be patient. Don't worry that a 
feeder on the window will cause birds to fly into the window. Birds fly 
into the window because they see the reflection of the woods. Window 
feeders and decals can help break up the reflection. 
If you find a bird that has hit a window, carefully pick it up and put it 
in a box or a large paper bag. Put it in a dark, quiet corner of your 
house for a couple of hours. If the bird recovers, take the box or bag 
outside and just let it go. If the bird comes to, but seems injured, call 
your local wildlife rehabilitation center for help. 
I bought some cracked corn coated with a red dye. Is it safe to use?
The red or pink coating is capstan, a fungicide used on seeds meant for 
planting. If you buy a bag of cracked corn or other seed treated with 
capstan, return it to the store. It can kill horses, other mammals and 
wild birds. 
I bought a bag of sunflower seeds early in the spring. Over the summer I 
noticed first worms, then moths. What can I do to keep the bugs out?
It's natural for moths to lay their eggs in sunflower seeds. The eggs lay 
dormant as long as the seeds are stored in a cool dry place. In the 
summer, seeds get hot and the eggs hatch. 
The best way to avoid this problem is to buy seeds in smaller quantities, 
or store your seeds in a cool, dry place. It also helps to know where your 
retailer stores the seed. An air conditioned storage unit is the better 
choice. 
Insects will also lay their eggs in burlap bags. Don't buy seeds in burlap 
bags. Don't buy seed in paper and plastic bags with patched holes. That 
may be a sign of insect or rodent infestations. 
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ADDITIONAL READINGS
A Field Guide to the Birds of North America by Robbins, Bruun, Zim and 
Singer. Golden Press, 1983. 
Trees, Shrubs and Vines for Attracting Birds by Richard De Graff and 
Gretchen Wit. University of Massachusetts Press, 1979. 
How to Attract Birds by Ortho Books, 1983. 
A Complete Guide to Bird Feeding by John Dennis, Knopf, 1994. 
The Bird Feeder Book by Donald and Lilliam Stokes. 1987. 
Summer Bird Feeding by John Dennied. 1988. 
Woodworking for Wildlife by Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, 
1987. 
Planting a Refuge for Wildlife by Florida Game & Freshwater Fish 
Commission, 1986.

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June Wingert
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